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Published in Colombia - Political debates and analysis - 42 - 13 Nov 19 14:49

IMPORTANT: I dont like to do publications but I think that Edom have to see this shame situation. I hope you read all the publication. No matter if you are ally or enemy from Brazil please be impartial, I going to talk like an User from this game, no a eColombian citizen.


I am writing the content of this post on Day 931, explaining how Brazil broke the NAP signed between COLOMBIA - BRASIL - ARGENTINA.

How you can see on this publication: https://www.edominations.com/en/article/11612

Those countries signed a NAP for 60 days on 24 Sep at 13:31, so the NAP ends on 24 Nov, the NAP is in spanish so here the traduction:

COLOMBIA - BRAZIL - ARGENTINA

AGREE:
1. The parts(Col, Arg, Bra) agree to sign a non-aggression pact for 60 days, they will not send dow between them, they will not fight in each countrys rws.
2. Colombia will release the core regions of Brazil.
3. Colombia will free the core regions of Argentina.
4. Argentina will free the occupied regions of Chile - Bolivia and Paraguay.
5. Colombia will transfer to Brazil the regions it owns in Paraguay in exchange for a monthly rent payment.
6. As a sign of goodwill Colombia and Brazil will sign mpp for cooperation.
7. Each country undertakes not to allow the passage of enemies through its territories during the time of the NAP.


Atte:

Jjperdido
Cp Colombia

CelioMG
Cp Brazil

Maritoxxx
Cp Argentina



About 16:00 Edom hour, Brasil sent a DOW against Argentina how you can see on this image:


https://i.imgur.com/gJtTBIz.png
https://i.imgur.com/gJtTBIz.png


Brasil goverment reached to do 3 votes but the Argentinas CP was alerted and could send the DOW fast with the fact, that Argntina`s laws can be approve them with only 2 votes, how you can see on this image:


https://i.imgur.com/bNLesHl.png
https://i.imgur.com/bNLesHl.png


Actually CGRM (Cp of Brazil) was writing lies in global chat, saying that Argentina sends the law first. Something imposible becouse Argentina can send a law and aprove it in seconds with 2 votes (many countries do this to aprove fast). How you can see on the images, Brazil did 3 votes but was so slow.

You can see on this posts CGRM lying about it, its obvious that the DOW sent from Brazil was planed to attack before the end of NAP, and lie to blame Argentina saying that they sent the DOW first:



https://i.imgur.com/ETX1nUi.png
https://i.imgur.com/ETX1nUi.png


Some people go on trying to show Argentina like the guilty, arguing wrong things:


https://i.imgur.com/VKYxbSW.png
https://i.imgur.com/VKYxbSW.png


The Point 1 says: they will not send dow between them WILL NOT SEND. Brasil sent DOW first, no matter if aprove it or not, it says send... this have no disscusion...


https://i.imgur.com/5jDLQP2.png
https://i.imgur.com/5jDLQP2.png

The Point 4 says: Argentina will free the occupied regions of Chile - Bolivia and Paraguay.

This argue have no sense, Argentina released those regions on time... I cant understand this argue sinse Argentina did not take cores from Chile or Paraguay until the time that Brazil send the DOW... how you can see below, when Brazil send the DOW, Argentina was attacking a core from Chile and Paraguay... but still no take them, we can asume that Argentina can lose those battles and dont take those cores... anyway how you can see below, Argentina finally lost the Battle agains Chile so did not take the region:

https://www.edominations.com/en/battlefield/19948/1

And the battle against Paraguay is still on while I writte this post (Day 931 becouse I going to wait the posible attack of Bra or Arg to post this):


https://i.imgur.com/s1oYWWu.png
https://i.imgur.com/s1oYWWu.png


They had a trainning war: https://www.edominations.com/es/article/11893 Anyway at this time, Argentina can take that region from Paraguay because the NAP between Arg-Bra is broke right now by Brazil.

The title of this post talk about Brazil occupants and shame just must fall over them. The real owners always going to be BIG GIL, CP Brasileiro, Gunner (Thiers), and the others...

(Day 932 - update) Finally Argentina decided not to attack Brasil despite the violation of the NAP by Brazil, but Brasil decided to attack Argentina anyway:

https://www.edominations.com/en/battlefield/19991/1

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Comments (42)

13 Nov 19 14:57
Tudor S

CGRM não tem palavra

13 Nov 19 14:58
Kvothe

If you think that we will do nothing while Argentina is stealing our regions/bonuses in Paraguay, you are mistaken. Our side could anytime break the MPP with Colombia but we respected it, although your puppets in Argentina took the action in their own hands, now you both have to live with it. As for the NAP, my translator says that countries cant DoW each other, Argentina DoWed us first since their law passed first. Maybe it was a trick from my side, maybe my congress failed, but thats how things are. Now you will pay the consequences. o7

13 Nov 19 15:11
By Batu

ARG already broke the deal by occupying released regions

13 Nov 19 15:14
Supression

What about USA Pacific coast and Galapagos? Brazil stole these regions of Colombia waiting to Colombia recover regions and break the nap but that didnt happen, now blame Argentina by the same as you did , shut up CGRM pets have no right to claim anything

13 Nov 19 15:14
Still Standing

No CGRM is not about translator ... it is the fact that the point 1 says parties will not send WILL NOT SEND, and you sent the law first, they responded faster ... just accept that you broke the NAP, do not deny it anymore

13 Nov 19 15:15
Kvothe

Stealing regions from the core owner isnt breaking the NAP. Colombia could strike back and make Brazil pay for this, but they didnt, this was my mistake not mine. Brazil in the other hand striked back to Argentina when they did the same cuz we aint idiots . NAP was broken once the Argentinian DoW was accepted. If Brazilian was accepted then YES Brazil would be the NAP breakers, but it didnt happened like that. As i said our country respected the MPP with Colombia while we could cancel it (since NAP allowed us to do that) and help our allies, but we respected it and we didnt did it. As for the Argentinas decision to not attack, HOW COULD I KNOW? Did anyone of you messaged me that Argentina changed their mind and didnt attacked?? You lost the initiative and i got it, should i have waited you to attack us in your primetime?? You can call me many things, i have done many things, but i always honor my word and the agreements i make, you can ask anyone here, even my enemies to show you if i have ever break any agreement on any NAP that i have made, as CP , as commander or as SC, since i was in multiple occasions in these roles. Its not my problem if you lack of communication, its been many times that i tried to contact Colombian leadership and it took days to respond.

13 Nov 19 15:18
Still Standing

@bybatu nop, How I seid on post... Brazil SEND the low when Arg was attacking Par, so they still didnt take that region, you had to wait for Argentina to take the region, it was your mistake... you send the low asumming that Argentina finally would take that region

13 Nov 19 15:22
Kvothe

@still Standing, You are so mistaken here. Even with your logic, that Argentina would have break the NAP only if they have taken the Paraguay region, its the same with Brazils law. We could have delay to accept it just to see the result of the battle, since law was sent after the beginning of the battle. But Argentina accepted the law first, while Brazils law was on hold, and half of the gov hadnt voted yet, Our Gov has 4 positions and 3 congress men, and only 3 voted on this, so 4 ppl could easily have rejected it. So please before trying to excuse your pets actions, read the facts properly....

13 Nov 19 15:22
Still Standing

@CGRM nop, the NAP was broke when Brasil SEND the low, the point 1 says SEND not accept...

13 Nov 19 15:28
Kvothe

Thats what you say, NAP was signed to dont DoW each other not to just send laws. Thats how every NAP works, thats how it was when it was signed. You see a gov can easily get impeached for 1 day, and a CP send trolling laws, will you consider this as NAP breaking? Its good to try to find excuses but it aint gonna work here. We respected Colombia, we respected Argentina even tho that our allies was in war with both of you. We could have easily help them since war started, but we didnt, even if NAP allowed us to do it. If you think that i would break a deal , a NAP for first time in my life, just 10 days before it expire, while NAP was running for 40 days now, then you delusional . .

13 Nov 19 15:38
Supression

Brazil broke the deal first by occupying released regions from Colombia USA PACIFIC COAST AND GALAPAGOS, NOW HAWAII

13 Nov 19 15:42
Still Standing

@CGRM I dont know if you really wanted to break the NAP or not, maybe it was a mistake not to read what it says, SEND and you think that about how the NAPs works. ... maybe it was an error of appreciation, anyway what you wrote yesterday on the wall was very bad ... so discrediting to Arg if you do not want to accept it is already your problem. If you had not written what you wrote yesterday in the NAP this publication would not exist.

13 Nov 19 15:45
TheDankSavage

https://ibb.co/vd53V0q

13 Nov 19 15:49
Still Standing

***wrote yesterday in the wall this publication would not exist.

13 Nov 19 15:52
Kvothe

@Supression how is Brazil exactly breaking the NAP by taking these regions? Terms for our side were saying that we cant fight in RWs, we didnt fought in RW to get em. So please before you talk shiet state your facts. I see 50 comments from your side, each one of them says that Brazil broke the NAP for a different reason. @Still Standing, from my side, what i see is that Argentina didnt respected brazil, so what you want me to say to them? Thank you? As for your NAP publication, i answered and gave response to everything.

13 Nov 19 15:57
Kvothe

5. Colombia will transfer to Brazil the regions it owns in Paraguay in exchange for a monthly rent payment. Argentina is getting one of the regions that we pay rent for it, and you still think that they respect the NAP? WTF is wrong with you people

13 Nov 19 16:10
Dieguito

As background we must add that Arg and Py have a training war going on. The following art I announce to everyone https://www.edominations.com/article/11893. It specifies that the attacker must lose the live, but if it does not occur, the live stops and the next day both parties support the rw to recover the region. In fact that happened no less than twice before. As you can see the attack on the PY region does not justify anything.

13 Nov 19 16:17
Kvothe

@Dieguito, come on bro. Thats poor excuses. Paraguay region was rented by Brazil , cost was paid to Colombia based on the NAP. We lost the region and you attacked it straight. When you have a NAP with a country, you make trainning wars with their territories ? Paraguay has other regions liberated, that you could have easily attack them. So you are telling me that BY LUCK YOU ATTACKED THE REGION THAT BELONGS TO US, EXACTLY THE TIME THAT WE LOST IT? Do you even believe your selves? You can easily admit that you did a mistake, and ask us to understand, by stay hidden with poor excuses like this one is just a shame....

13 Nov 19 16:39
Jjperdido

Interesante para Brasil Argentina rompe el nap por ocupar regiones liberadas de Brasil, pero cuando Brasil ocupa regiones liberadas de Colombia si esta bien, que doble moral la de bybatu y cgrm.

13 Nov 19 17:00
Kvothe

@Jjperdido, does Colombia pay rent for these regions that you are talking about? NO . Doesnt Brazil pay rent for the regions that Argentina took? YES. Does NAP allows Brazil to get these that Brazil got from Colombia? YES. So thanks for your comments, but they aint valid.

13 Nov 19 17:16
ddellacqua

If the problem was the region, it was a matter of saying, release it and voila. Thing we would have done without a doubt. Peru you decided to attack. On the other hand, I act according to who. Forget that a week before Brazil offered exactly that same region for Argentina to betray Col and allow the passage to attack the bonus in Chile? Come on, we all know who is who. You looked for a casus belli to justify breaking the nap, but the truth is that it went wrong.

13 Nov 19 17:23
Kvothe

And whats the reason to break the NAP exactly?What do i win now, that i will not win in 10 days that NAP ends anyways? You think i would put my name on the line just to break a deal that would expire anyways next week? And what went wrong exactly? I see everything going fine for my side, even tho that you treated us without any respect . As for what you say about betrayals i have never spoke with you or anyone from Argentina in this game about anything, so what are you talking about?

13 Nov 19 19:01
ddellacqua

I said Brazil, I talk about the government of Brazil. I dont know if you were aware or not, I dont care, they dont change anything.

13 Nov 19 19:12
Kvothe

This doesnt change anything on what we are talking about either. You accuse my gov, in my term that we broke the NAP, while i state the opposite, im not aware on any proposal that u had from old gov, but it doesnt change anything about what you did yesterday either.

14 Nov 19 01:31
Legit Marcial

Semantics are a beatifull thing. Argentina didnt break anything because it says they will free the regions. Wich they did.. nothing in the nap says they cant take it back

14 Nov 19 03:04
Kvothe

So when you have a deal between 3 people, and 2 of them have a rent between each other, and you have signed this deal, its okay to steal the rented regions. Didnt knew that, i will have it in mind next time...

14 Nov 19 03:48
Elon Musk

Nothing new from the brazilian gang, a bunch of pathetic liars with ego complex, now even breaking naps. Pathetic and shameful, congrats cris, you joined the club of nap breakers with fylolia.

14 Nov 19 03:54
Kvothe

@Deflection , you still suffer from the pain in the other game? Its okay bro, one day you will be okay.

14 Nov 19 04:45
Elon Musk

You still suffer from the same disease as we can all see. Keep breaking naps, and making up excuses, make us proud.

14 Nov 19 04:59
Kvothe

I never broke any NAP or my word ever. Even with enemies thats something that matters. In the other hand you suffer from PTSD from the other game, like some other Bulgarians and people from your alliance, cuz you got dominated for months while you had the biggest community there. You cant understand that its a game, and we are players in it.

14 Nov 19 05:06
Elon Musk

We can see that you did it in this article, idk what ur trying to deny, its plain and simple. Also it is you who cannot understand that it is a game judging by your overall behaviour.

14 Nov 19 05:27
Kvothe

I did what exactly? Proposed a law that was on hold, cuz Argentina stole the regions that i rent from this NAP? And Argentina DoW us cuz we proposed the law? As you see its both sides fault,not just mine.

14 Nov 19 05:51
ddellacqua

If the problem was the region, it was a matter of saying, release it and voila. Thing we would have done without a doubt. Peru you decided to attack. On the other hand, I act according to who. Forget that a week before Brazil offered exactly that same region for Argentina to betray Col and allow the passage to attack the bonus in Chile? Come on, we all know who is who. You looked for a casus belli to justify breaking the nap, but the truth is that it went wrong.

14 Nov 19 05:51
REALKrle

Point 1 NOT SEND DoW, Brazil did first so its all clear. If its TW and they attack right after you lose, well Paraguay will return it and then attack. Simply as that.

14 Nov 19 06:03
Elon Musk

You proposed the law which itsels is breaking the nap, then voted it 3-0 but it wasnt fast enough, now ur crying about it. Apparently you cant read properly aswell.

14 Nov 19 06:06
Kvothe

Official NAP was written about We cant DoW each other, @ddellacuqa i already answered on this message, no need to copy paste the same things. Krle u have no idea whating going on in South America right now, its everything on fire , u they are so stupid to make a TW in a third countries teritorries then they are worthy to be attacked.

14 Nov 19 06:09
REALKrle

Its something like hole in law, accept that.

14 Nov 19 06:15
Kvothe

I dont accept anything. Everything is writte clearly. They stole the region, they DoWed , they got attacked. Simple as that. They can cry all the day but this wont change their actions. They even understood their fault and didnt attacked after the DoW, but they were too proud to send a message and ask to end all the hostile actions that time. So they got attacked...

14 Nov 19 07:35
REALKrle

Ok as you wish

15 Nov 19 02:25
Test

:POPCORN: DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA CRY CRY CRY xD

15 Nov 19 08:12
Chernobog

IMO, Argentina shouldve handled the situation differently. Just sayin.

17 Nov 19 03:04
FITOMAR

Mami.. salí en la foto.. jajajaj... Métanse su NAp por el cu.... :3