Why medics are complaining - the REAL reason. |

Published in China - Political debates and analysis - 32 - 22 Sep 18 08:22

Fine im gonna bite in your baits, everyone calling people crying, but only because main chat has a limit of 240 characters and you cant write everything at once there. 

So there are two parts to calling people cryers on the main wall, but totally unrelated although often confused with eachother.
The first one is pertaining to Macolar and his frustrations with Admins. The thing is that he gave a suggestion to admins and was told to write an article about it and when he did nothing happened. He told the admins about it and they said the article didnt have enough traction, that it needs more comments (around 50 was the number cited). So he told people to comment on it and they did, article got the required number of comments and NOTHING was done, Admins ignored it again. This is the article im talking about. Macolars frustration (and many other players) is that admin team is inactive and mocking players trying to improve the game.

The second part of it is problems with Medic ability. It has several issues that should be fixed, because it is not a problem with ability but buggy behaviour and failure of communications on part of admin team.

These are the two articles detailing abilities by Admin
Ability announcement
Day before update
and this one by Tyrael on his personal account:
Abilities interactions

In none of these does it say that health pool made by medics can ONLY be used by country directly involved in the battle in fact it is implied that only YOUR country can use pool created by its citizens. That was announced only after abilities were added to the game and people upgraded their centers and not even in announcements on discord or anything but a casual reply in support chat. I cant even find the reply at the moment of searching.
Its all fine and dandy helping allies but people were expecting that everyone could use the pool not just one country. 
In fact the main reason why i chose Medic over Sniper was that i thought all allies could use the health.

Second part of medic complaining is that even if the battle is of your home country, very rarely do medics actually get the pool before it is used. That is a problem of autoclickers AND bugs. People reported not getting the pool when it appeared, or only getting a small portion of total pool displayed. Second part happened to me as well, i got 2 health out of 10 in the pool. 

The solutions proposed so far:
- add a window of 5s in which only the medic that made it can use the pool
- limit amount of health obtained from pool and add a cooldown when limit is reached
- the pool is used as a direct hit in a battle instead of adding it to users account.

The last option seems interesting and would actually fix all the problems of above bugs/exploits. 
How it would work is that upon claiming the pool, a hit would be made with weapon selected at the moment (or barehanded). This was stealing would be prevented and even if it wouldnt the damage in battle would still be done. Negative side of this is that pool use would have be limited to minimum of 10 (1 weapon).

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As far as i know no other abilities have this kind of problems, except perhaps no-trigger bugs but that is only speculation.

The artillery always hits, destroyer always hits, sniper has a chance hit with extra damage, but none of them suffer from other people exploiting nor admin miss-communication.

TL;DR:
- Macolar is pissed at admin inactivity and his rants are unrelated to Medic ability
- Medic suffers from miss-communication, bugs and exploits by opponents, problems that other abilities dont really have.





Rant over
Peace out

enigma the one

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Comments (32)

22 Sep 18 08:29
Macolar

Agree with all solutions! Hail enigma!

22 Sep 18 08:34
BGsGold

I support the article о7

22 Sep 18 08:35
keyser

jepp, agreed 💪🏻

22 Sep 18 08:38
curbn

Agreed. Ples fix medic ability :)

22 Sep 18 08:41
salinho

Agree with all solutions! Hail enigma!

22 Sep 18 08:48
Bikkin

Justice for medics!

22 Sep 18 08:48
Republic of Macedonia

Agree with all !!

22 Sep 18 08:53
Antimon

All of the facts were known before you came here to write it down once again.. Nevertheless, it wouldnt hurt you if you asked this question when the admins announced the update and gave the initial details.

22 Sep 18 09:02
Mazinger2021

Agree

22 Sep 18 09:03
Aenfear

In none of these does it say that health pool made by medics can ONLY be used by country directly involved in the battle in fact it is implied that only YOUR country can use pool created by its citizens. -- pretty sure that was what was intended/said it will be (about only your country), so if it doesnt work like that, it must be bug

22 Sep 18 09:04
DreSanu

Admins disappeared when they should have been there to give more details and explain the questions @antimon . Please do not talk without informing yourself about the whole story. Just look at this short print from the edom server http://prntscr.com/kxfpeo and check that timeline yourself if you want, with 1-2 days before implementing it and also few days after that they were nowhere to be found, even if players from many countries asked for clarifications. And how can you ask question about something you were not informed in the first place. Should we have asked, hey if the ability activate in an allied battle will it produce energy just for the pool of the country that has the direct hit? We could not dream how they coded it, and since they said nothing about this mechanic working the way it actually does...

22 Sep 18 09:18
enigma the one

Antimon did you even read the ing article or did you just come here and pull something out of your ass? All the facts were NOT known before the update, thats like 30% of this article you illiterate troll.

22 Sep 18 09:32
General George S Patton

Antimon clearly lacks some years. Beside all that, this article is quite good. I picked sniper and not medic because it had the most straight forward-ish deion of how it will work.

22 Sep 18 10:03
Fighter 007

Agree with all the solutions! Hail enigma! o7

22 Sep 18 10:10
Macolar

Perhaps Antimon knew it all before we did... double standards?

22 Sep 18 10:18
General George S Patton

d.e.s.c.r.i.p.t.i.o.n. Interesting censorship.

22 Sep 18 11:15
1224333

Admins on holiday whit my Euros .... Last vacation ...

22 Sep 18 11:55
Antimon

Only worthy comment here is definitely the one made by @DreSanu. Yes, I was absolutely unaware of their absence in that specific time so you have my apologies. Its incredible what cunts they need to be to do that. xD

22 Sep 18 12:30
Safer

Really good article, agree o7

22 Sep 18 12:40
eprofi

signed :)

22 Sep 18 13:06
Sculpture

VOTANDO!

22 Sep 18 13:10
Itandehui

Fix medic !

22 Sep 18 14:03
Fricjagr

o7

22 Sep 18 14:14
Strange7

o7

22 Sep 18 17:07
Zig Thorak

o7

22 Sep 18 22:42
TouchMe

Im medic and I dont care. Voted, but didnt read. Too long IMO

23 Sep 18 00:02
Mystique

They said we had 18 days to think about the abilities, but whenever we asked something they did not answer (or answer it wrongly - do I need to copy/paste the answer Ilija gave to me with the wrong formula result?), Tyrael said the double damage of artillery was in the article (it wasnt) and they dont care about the game anymore. Neither do I. Let it burn.

23 Sep 18 02:37
aLjoX5

@Chuliganas You do realize you have a TL;DR version at the end right? :D

23 Sep 18 02:39
ScymeX Jr

Agreed

23 Sep 18 05:50
Elbromas

Agree

23 Sep 18 06:22
TouchMe

@aLjoX5 Now I do :D thx

23 Sep 18 23:10
smajli

And I am the one who need to calm down Macolar, when he is pissed at admins! Where is the justice? I deserve a medal :D :P Great article :) the most interesting thing from Tyraels article is: ...over 27 level players can use from the POOL. Only my compatriots(citizens) neither allies, nor travellers. Admins are you serious :D ... say one thing, do the other...