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:thinking: Written like that, you dont need a judge position, simply give his authority to the president, If however u remove that referendum thing (i think you should) and punishments are applied with no voting then i am ok with the judge positon.
You did spme great job admins...keep it up ..always got active events and make them even harder ...the game is more competitive like this =more alive ...gj
im happy with new events . especially armed combat event increased economical activities.supporter pack will be to hard to get except fake accounts ( so please admin team should care about fake accounts more than normal time)
judge idea would be good in perfect environment but we dont have that: there are some players controlling too many accounts, so they can manipulate referendum votes according to their personal will or one group will (we all know banning multies job is not done properly/is too hard). another ``misuse`` of this could be that current government, wanna make opposition players leave the country, so with majority, they can punish left party players and force them to change citizenship. anything regarding punishments is always debatible, cause just because is bad for you, doesnt mean its bad indeed. practical example: Holjo shooted against his own country these days, but he did it so his people could wake up/he was calling some people attention/he was butthurt/whatever. should a judge decide ``his fate`` or put it on referendum? and I better not talk about how biased this could become
On the other side, what if someone gets accepted in country X and then does his best to ruin the reputation and relations of his new host (not pointing fingers or anything but.. ;) ) In that case, the country could have a way to get rid of those parasites.
and yes, new events + country risk, nice job from you guys, thanks for the effort and dedication. also wanna mention that your interaction ingame feed + discord is really cool
I think judge idea is nice but I would increment the % of positivo votes in order to punish one player. 66% look easy to reach to my eyes
The idea itself makes sense only in one aspect. The game will get a considerable attraction. However there are some societies in the game which will be unable to handle this system. I picked up a comment above about judge would decide himself and without voting. Thats not possible in such an environment as there is almost no player here who plays this game single and does not belong to any minor group within the society. Second, everyone has some economical interests. And if there is a judge for controlling the justice then there should be another organ controlling the judge. Compared to decision making, moderating is more logical but thats still problematic.
@DreSanu. Player wont be kicked out from the country ( thats not possible in our mechanics, can block user to get his basic rights as like str or daily job ). But in period of time which i am thinking as 30 days, will be punished by extra tax - damage reduction and something more ( these options will be selected by judge ) Not all punishments at the same time. The rule for him only will be in that specific country. To create the referendum, targeted user has to be in that country also. So there is a new methods to have fun :)
we understand Tyrael, but is basically forcing/leaving the player without much choice but to leave the country. and DreSanu, thats why citizenship applications has two buttons: accept and reject
Nice to see admins so active. Not complaining but more of a warning to be careful about the new player events. Keep a special eye on users that are know or have been known in the past to have multi problems, because they are probably the ones that are going to try to abuse the system. About the judge position, dont have that strong of an opinion but take into account if the player started the game with the same cs. By that I mean, if a player changes cs and then starts causing trouble in his new country, then the punishments available could be different than a player who is playing in his same country and is just dissatisfied. Maybe make punishment harsher on the first but not as harsh on the second.
judge idea is impressive im so much excited there will be a punishment for traitors and deserters
Yes yes JUDGE! Very good idea - perhaps another thing. Referendum should perhaps first be accepted by congressmen ... then the voting of all the people should start...So the judge cant use his position he also must have some failsafe.
Make rounds 3 points each, so weapon rounds and tank rounds are so important they can make air battle useless. OOOR, make that depending on damage difference, country size and an other, make structures like DS and or hospital break, if active on battle.
+2 golds per day for 30 days !!! Thats a great thing !!! I am also very happy to see admins trying to improve things in the game even if its summer !!!
@zebosek Its punishable by moderators if you use offensive language. So we have some sort of punishment already here. So lets try to punish people who are not abiding the laws of the state (NAP and MPP). If somebody wants to wake up people to resistance he can use elections! I propose we can try it for a month and then we will see where it take us.
I also agree with judge. Anyway if 66% of people thinks someone should be punished, he certainly did something very wrong. Nobody can control 66% of the population with multies (except China according to Zebosk words). I think with the current proposal it is not easy to punish someone. Especially in large countries. But at least you have an option to punish problematic players. I think this would be good improvement.
the judges should be at least three. So that it is not discretional and avoid being used for revenge for political or personal reasons. For the rest I think all the above is very good.
massaru, if 3 people in total vote and 2 vote yes, thats already 66%. maybe you dont know know but its called simple math. article doesnt mention there must be a quorum, just a percent of votes. Slovenian arithmetic skills, Jesus
That was really a righteous article guys. I am impressed. what i dont understand is Who is getting Punished, if a citizen gets out of line the Judge can impose sanctions on him?
Judgement is a good idea. However, you have to make sure that it will be only for some problematic players, not for politics. For example, punishment can only be given to one player per month and that punished player will get a title in the profile page. When the judge want to punish another player (and the previous punished player has not changed citizenship), the judge must release the previous punishment first, then he can punish another player. The ones who have the privilege to judge can be CP and/or Prime Minister, then the community will vote the law. And of course make +4 or +5 addition in the judges laws. However, your top priority should be fixing the server lag.. :)
I am thinking it should be more like 90% vote needed to punish. But i always thought their should be available some sort of personal retaliation available for the players that act the ButtBrains
I am thinking it should be more like 90% vote needed to punish. But i always thought their should be available some sort of personal retaliation available for the players that act the ButtBrains
@Ilija @tyrael ..very good ideas are coming ....thanks admin........but i think admin must give medal to member of each country that accept be minster.......they are work hard for improving country and give vote for congress like CM but dont receive anything for it.....therefore its not good.........i suggest that admin add new medal to game with name government member (GM) and give 7 gold to minster for each perid..
what about ability to work multiple times daily? Each house one work? :)
here is my suggestion. Ombudsman instead of Judge. https://www.edominations.com/en/article/8995
I think Zebosk is right about the misuse of a justice system, but at the same time removing some players from a comunity could be good, punish them to force to other country, I mean, if you have the majority to do and this player is causing confusion enough, why not?